Well, that's what we'd like to know. All we can figure out is a couple of canned presentations, that couldn't have taken more than a few hours to put together--and some overly high guesstimates of prices. Check these "concept" designs for yourself. And now another $5,000 for who knows what.

financial estimates Remember these numbers are per building, so multiply x4. Also, note the 10% design contingency and a 5% construction contingency.

It should be noted that Wnuk Spurlock, one of the architectural companies that was paid $15,000 for their concept states that a good quality carpet should cost $32 sq. yd. installed--Kearns (who won the bid) quotes $5 sq. yd.  or $45 sq. yd. -- plus additional labor costs!!!!  Calculate the difference. As mentioned, the elevator cab quotes from Kearns are way out of line according to two elevator cab companies. Looks like money is just no object!

Kearns quote for elevator cab decor upgrade to stainless steel (per quote for walls, ceiling, panels): $198,000  ($24,750 each) for 8. Freight ceiling $6,600 ea. or $26,400 

Per elevator cab renovation expert:

Low price on elevator cab interior renovation for stainless steel: $9,000 - $11,000 each or total of $72,000-$88,000. Freight $3,000 $3,500 or $12,000 or $13,000. $120,000 would be HIGH for stainless for 8 elevators. They just did a 5-star hotel in NYC for $25,000/per cab--very high end.

Contractors generally receive 15%-10% of all 3rd party contracts. (Note: Do we really want to pay this premium?)

Interior cab companies work directly with elevator companies. Interior guys cannot do anything with moving parts--only elevator company. Elevator company does button panel, doors, and all moving parts.

 Would cost additional to remove/replace doors. Elevator guys remove doors not decor guys.

 Another elevator cab renovation expert:

Most economical packages provide wall panels finished in a plastic laminate. These packages for an average sized cab start around $6,500, installed. Once you include a new ceiling, typically constructed from a mirror or satin finished stainless steel, you will add an additional $1,700 - $2,300 to the base price depending on the light fixture you select. This is the price for one cab – an 8-10% discount would apply for multiple cabs.

If you move up to a wall panel finished in a stainless steel, these packages for an average sized cab start around $8,000, installed. Price will vary a little bit depending upon whether or not  you go with a true sheet of stainless or a stainless laminate. Ceiling prices to complement these cabs will be priced the same as above.

In addition to base pricing, make sure you address the following issues:

1. Weight – how much do your old finishes weigh? How much will your new finishes weigh? Is there more than a 5% difference between the two? If so, you will need to get a handle on how much your service provider will charge you to rebalance the cabs. This work is not cheap.

2. Energy Costs – There are a variety of different substrates onto which your decorative finishes may be applied and which one you choose will determine how much your cabs will weigh and how much you will pay in electricity bills. We have cabs packages that weigh as little at 275# or as much as 700#. Multiply that weight by the amount of trips your cab will make in a given month and the savings can add up quickly. Elevators use a lot of energy…..

3. Environment – Have you given any thought to FSC certified [wall finish] products? No formaldehyde/low urea substrates? Low VOC adhesives? Energy saving light fixtures?

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